Parliament Must Approve Overseas Deployment

Parliament Must Approve Overseas Deployment

This is my group and I love the concept of free speech. The Zio-Nazis are taking the full advantage of our “belief’ and they are lowering the quality of the debate here! Anyway, apart from insanity and profanity, they got nothing to add in any debate. The main stream media is almost identical in their approach.

Right now, I challenge Mike Jefferys of Radio 2UE, Mike Williams of 2GB, Stuart Bocking, Radio Nazi Jim ball, Tim Webster of 2UE and Beyond, Reverend Bill Cruise or anyone for that matter to come forward and debate any issues instead of hiding behind four walls and telephone operators.

All of you have are obliged to report truthfully accurately. You should have the courage of conviction and ability to debate any issues rather than manufacturing consent and opinion only.

--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "bruce" wrote:

Re: Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war

You filth!!! Israel had nothing to do with it!! The taliban and elquaida had all to do with it!! But idiots like you support them and desecrate the memory of your fellow Australians!!! You really are a child raping bucket of shit!!

XCheers Bruce3

--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Biplobi Faruque"
wrote:

Re: Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war

Invasion of Afghanistan was a well planed Israel centric war similar to Iraq. This barbaric invasion and total operation in Afghanistan got nothing to do with Australian defense, safety and terrorism. Continuous and systematic slaughter of unarmed men, women, and children at wedding parties, funeral ceremonies, Sunday Schools, Friday schools ….. based on pure prejudice and bigotry paving the way to hell for the overseas mercenaries!

After ten years of senseless bloodbath, the foreign mercenaries failed to improve anything. They are an abject failure.

Taxi

Chiefs defend war as toll rises

DAN OAKES DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT

June 22, 2010

Drunken sailor in hot water

Three more dead in Afghanistan

Three more Australian soldiers have died after a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

FOR the second time in a fortnight the Australian Defence Force's hierarchy was obliged to stand grim-faced and announce the deaths of Australian soldiers.

This time it was three commandos killed and seven injured in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan, taking Australia's death toll to five in two weeks.

The Chief of Defence Force, Angus Houston, said last night the crash appeared to have been an accident, rather than a result of enemy fire. Two Australian soldiers were seriously injured and an American soldier was also killed.

Chief of the Defence Force Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston and Defence Minister John Faulkner address the media. Photo: Stefan Postles

Standing alongside Air Chief Marshal Houston, the Defence Minister, John Faulkner, said Australia's involvement in the war was essential to stop Afghanistan becoming a training ground and haven for terrorists.

The crash, about 3am Afghan time yesterday (8.30am Sydney time) in the rugged terrain of Kandahar province, comes two weeks after sappers Darren Smith and Jacob Moerland were killed by a roadside bomb in Oruzgan province. There have now been 16 Australian deaths in Afghanistan.

''On behalf of all the men and women of the ADF, I extend my sympathy to the families of these three fine commandos we lost this morning,'' Air Chief Marshal Houston said. ''The deaths of these three soldiers come very closely following the loss of Sappers Moerland and Smith.''

The deaths come in the context of an intensifying conflict in the south of Afghanistan, as allied forces increase pressure on the Taliban in Kandahar.

Australian troops are taking part in the offensive, which the coalition led by NATO hopes will break the insurgents' ability to fight.

Fifty-four coalition soldiers have been killed this month, the most since 74 died in October.

The dead commandos, from the 2nd Commando Regiment, had served in Afghanistan previously. They were on their way to an operation when the crash happened and had been involved in a fierce battle against insurgents in the same area only last week.

The deaths come as an Essential poll shows a sharp drop in support for Australian involvement in the war, with the number of people favouring pulling out rising from 50 per cent in March last year to 61 per cent this month.

The poll was conducted in the past week and shows that the number of people who think Australia should send more troops has halved to 7 per cent. Senator Faulkner said he would make a statement this week on how long Australian troops were likely to be in Afghanistan.

The Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, said it was ''a tragic day for Australia and for the Australian Defence Force'' but our role in Afghanistan was necessary to stop terrorists striking Australians at home and abroad.

The worst recent military accident overseas took nine lives when a helicopter crashed in Nias, Indonesia, in 2005. Eighteen soldiers died in a Black Hawk accident near Townsville in 1996.

--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "bruce" wrote:

Re: Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war

Faruque Ahmed is a complete idiot and is seen as such in all of Australia

Cheers Bruce



--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Biplobi Faruque" wrote:

Re: Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war

Peter Leahy was the Defense Chief of Australia and now he is a professor. I said it before like many decent people of this country and now he is saying, "troops should not be sent to fight overseas without parliamentary approval." Where is the dispute or point of contention?

--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "bruce" wrote:

Re: Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war

Faruque Ahmed is a complete idiot and is seen as such in all of Australia

Cheers Bruce

--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "rabbiforpalestine"
wrote:

Faruque Ahmed is correct.

--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Biplobi Faruque" wrote:

Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war

Similarly, Australians were forced to fight other peoples' war before and after Gallipoli. Naturally the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan based on totally false and fabricated reason and ground are a sad indictment for Australia. Political leaders, media moguls and elite power brokers made these decisions without proper debate or discussions inside or outside parliament. Virtually they black mailed our nation towards immoral, illegal and un-winnable wars. In short, people who are pushing our nation in wars outside Australia and not in defense of Australia are worse than this silly Sheikh Haron.

Source: Prime Minister Kevin Rudd

Call for Parliament, not just PM, to approve deploying troops for war

DAN OAKES DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT

June 18, 2010

AUSTRALIA'S former army chief has said troops should not be sent to fight overseas without parliamentary approval.

Peter Leahy, who retired as a lieutenant-general in 2008 and now heads the University of Canberra's National Security Institute, said yesterday that the decision to deploy troops was too serious to be left in the hands of the prime minister of the day. His comments came as Sapper Jacob Moerland, who was killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan along with Sapper Darren Smith last week, was buried in Gayndah, Queensland.

Professor Leahy believes Parliament should be required to vote within a set period from the start of any overseas deployment.

He said that in the United States, Congress must authorise any deployment within 60 days. ''I'm neither a politician nor a lawyer, so I'd leave the details to them, but I think that within a reasonable period of time, the Parliament would be asked to consider the … deployment.

''I would err on a longer period of time before Parliament gets to decide. Then later on, let's set a 12-month duration for a reconsideration, and that is a matter of public debate. In about 12 months' time, on a regular basis, Parliament should reconsider.''

The Coalition frontbencher Christopher Pyne later told Sky News that Professor Leahy's proposals were ''wrongheaded and dangerous''. Professor Leahy replied: ''How can it be dangerous to have the whole of Parliament involved in these important decisions?''

A spokesman for the Defence Minister, John Faulkner, said: ''The government regards this longstanding constitutional practice as appropriate and does not favour changing the current practice.''

Political support for Professor Leahy's views did come from the Greens senator Scott Ludlam, who has a private member's bill before Parliament.

A senate committee report on the bill, which would ensure that troops do not go to war overseas without the approval of both Houses of the Parliament, said last year that it should be rejected for a number of reasons, but described it as ''well-intended''. "We have repeatedly said that taking our country to war is one of the biggest decisions any government can make and should therefore be subject to parliamentary approval," Senator Ludlam said.

Professor Leahy emphasised that he supported Australia's existing deployments, but said their ambiguous and lengthy nature meant it was more important that they be scrutinised by the public.